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When I signed up for tribe I joined a bunch of filmmaking groups and I would casually browse or participate in discussions, but most of them were about the tools or industry.
Then I would get back to working on my own projects and my mind was on the tools and infrastructure of the business. I wanted a tribe that would put my mind onto what making movies is really about - telling stories.
And by telling stories, I don't mean creating plot points and I don't even think the stories need to be linear. I think Koyaaniquatsi - a non-narrative semi-documentary - no spoken language - movie had more story than most studio pictures.
So, I've started this tribe in hopes of creating a haven for filmmakers like myself who want to share discussions about the very core of filmmaking - telling the story.
Then I would get back to working on my own projects and my mind was on the tools and infrastructure of the business. I wanted a tribe that would put my mind onto what making movies is really about - telling stories.
And by telling stories, I don't mean creating plot points and I don't even think the stories need to be linear. I think Koyaaniquatsi - a non-narrative semi-documentary - no spoken language - movie had more story than most studio pictures.
So, I've started this tribe in hopes of creating a haven for filmmakers like myself who want to share discussions about the very core of filmmaking - telling the story.
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Re: Why this tribe exists
Thu, June 30, 2005 - 10:34 AMI don't know anything about making films...but I love stories...in all forms. I really enjoy your contributions, here..and continue to lurk..
I like being open to conversation, everyday. I find that a lot of people will talk to you , if you are open to it. I hear some great stories, just waiting in line .
Also, some really irritating people have great stories. I find that being kind to them ,instead of annoyed..leads them to start telling those stories.
I kind of collect these stories in my head and share them with friends and family...they are appreciated to varying degrees!
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Re: Why this tribe exists
Sat, July 30, 2005 - 12:12 AMSaw Koyaaniquatsi, Powaqqatsi and Naqoyqatsi in Berkeley with Philip Glass playing live!
You're absolutely right, that type of visual story telling without the need of a plot made a bigger impression on me than most talking studio pictures.
I don't know of anyone else who has endeavoured such an experiment since. Maybe that's the result of verbal storytelling where we expect actors to verbalize? -
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Re: Why this tribe exists
Sat, July 30, 2005 - 10:48 PMPeter Sellars directed a movie called "The Cabinet or Dr. Ramirez" starring Peter Ghallegar, Joan Cussack, Mikal Barishnikov. No dialogue.
It was an attempt at this I think. Unfortunately it rarely plays and I don't believe it's available on video anywhere. There were some music union dues owed and somehow that stopped it's distribution I believe.
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Re: Why this tribe exists
Tue, October 25, 2005 - 4:10 PMOf course many would agree that films should be told through pictures and not through words (especially when it comes to exposition). I tend to naturally think this way when writing anything. Probably because I’m more interested showing the choices people make than explaining why they make them. Choices define character and when you see strong characters make choices instead of blabbing about why they made a choice, it sometimes means the difference between a well told story through visuals and a sitcom or something.
However, it seems when some filmmakers cross the bridge from writing the annoying talky characters in the coffee shop to pure visuals with virtually no dialogue, they tend to take it a bit far. I’ve read many amateur short films where I find myself wondering why these characters won’t even say “hello” when they approach each other. Worse, this can sometimes lead to the dreaded “eyebrow acting”.
It should be clarified that visual storytelling doesn’t mean visuals with no dialogue. If a couple is having a friendly argument about whether to cook or go out for dinner… while taking a pregnancy test; what’s telling the story?
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Re: Why this tribe exists
Tue, October 25, 2005 - 4:27 PMOn the flipside, strong visuals don’t necessarily mean visual storytelling. Something can be shot very nice, but still just be talking heads full of exposition and explanation. Not really SHOWING anything.
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Re: Why this tribe exists
Tue, October 25, 2005 - 5:35 PMIt would be a matter of defining "Strong Visuals."
There are things which "look neat" and especially ever since the 80s, things that look neat are in favor for movies. I think those are often considered strong visuals. I think what you might be saying (and I would agree with) is that truly strong visuals are visuals which help tell the drama. Thus truly good visual storytelling is when the shot is enhancing the story in some way - by commenting on the moment, by expressing the interior feeling, by creating an emotion which supports the motion at hand. Not unlike music. You wouldn't put a great great song over an inappropriate scene just because it is a great song in and of itself - it would end up distracting rather than supporting unless it is being done consciously for irony.
I would still love to see a list of amazing shots which tell their story sprout up on this tribe.
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